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the flying experience is better on my CH pedals, X-45 throttle and MSFFB2. .

It is the most stable joy stick for shooting 50 cal in IL2 I have ever used. With some basic trimming and adjusting the elevator trim to a touch nose down you can slide the piper on to your target with little to no waggle and only the minor kicking you get from the 50 cals off the p51 does it move in a small vibration over the target... I am now hitting at 9% and best was 23% in 12 hours. I had 2 fast kills in War-clouds tonight where I hammered the 190s at 500m.

I've had a couple of days with the G940 and wanted to pass along my thoughts.

First of all, I've had the following HOTAS setups -

Saitek X36
Saitek X45
Thrustmaster Cougar with the IJ Uber mods, hall sensors and Simpad rudder pedals. >>>Isso é que o "state of art" que voce pode conseguir em termos de HOTAS não FF atualmente. Bom, da para incluir um pedal VKB no lugar do Simped.

And for those of you that have been around SimHQ and other forums, I was the creator of the SaitekHelp web site several years ago. That said, I do NOT have any connections to Logitech or Saitek.

I won't go over most of the appearance issues that have already been covered. My impression to-date is that the G940 is a quality product. If there is anything I would physically change with the G940, it would be to make the rudder pedals a bit wider and allow a bit longer throw. The Simped pedals have spoiled me big time.

The G940 has a bit of a learning curve, setting it up with various games as it's seen as 3 separate controllers in some and not others. For instance, the Joy X axis on the joystick is pitch and you may find that Joy X axis is used on the throttle as well when the throttle is seen as a different controller. So it takes a bit of trial and error to get everything set up to your liking if you're not used to assigning separate axis to separate controllers. Also some games require you to invert the axis to get a correct response in game.

The G940 easily adapts itself well to assigning buttons directly through the game, as in Black Shark, LockOn, Rise of Flight, FSX and others, or by use of the Logitech programing software. In addition, you can use a combination of the two - As an example, the Logitech software does things like cycle commands which you can't do with the same DX button in a game, or you can assign a button to one of the in game modifiers (like RAlt) that is used in Black Shark to get more than one command out of a DX button assignment in-game.

It also takes some trial and error getting the Force Feedback and axis sensitivity set up to your liking. As an example, I've set the rudder axis to the lowest sensitivity at full range to get the best response in Black Shark. (which is needed due to the short throw of the rudder pedals causing the rudder response to be oversensitive at any other setting)

One of the biggest issues to understand with the G940 with Black Shark is in order to achieve the correct trimmer stick response you have to put a piece of tape over the optical dead-man switch or the joystick will not hold the trimmed position when you let go of it. This is not a big deal, and in other games you'll find that you'll need to take the tape off. As an example in Rise of Flight, the bumps on the ground are felt through the stick on landing. It's a great effect, but if you let go of the stick with the tape still on, the stick will continue to buck it's way across your desk.

So far I've used the G940 in Black Shark, LockOn, Rise of Flight and FSX and overall I have been very impressed with the immersion that FFB adds and how well the G940 performs. The tactical feedback the G940 provides in game is impressive.

This is THE HOTAS for Black Shark. With the dead-man switch covered (so the stick remains in the trimmed position) Black Shark becomes a whole different game. It may take a bit of re-learning to get to your current comfort level flying in Black Shark, but once you see how the trimmer really is supposed to work and discover the accuracy that the Flight Director mode offers in strafing, attack runs and free flight it will change how you look at this simulation in my opinion.

LockOn, Rise of Flight and FSX also all have a different and more realistic feel - especially with trimming and flying on the edge of the performance envelope. The tactile response the stick provides in these simulations is nothing short of great.

Overall, I'm very impressed with the G940 HOTAS, and would highly recommend it to anyone.

That's my 2 cents anyway.
ronht

E se você comparar o G940 com o X52 com pedais Saitek?
Qual é melhor?

São conjuntos um pouco diferentes, já que muitos estavam esperando o o kit completo do G940 com ForceFeedback. O X-52 não tem ForceFeedback.

Em princípio, se o X-52 tiver os imãs reposicionados * , e retirado a "cortina de plástico" :-? dos pedais Saitek, é um bom conjunto e como mostra o Precision Tester, o G940 não é concorrente para o Saitek MODificado.

O pedal Saitek desenha uma onda senoidal no Precision Tester, em comparação com o "serrote" do G940.

NTT -* O MOD de reposicionar os imãs reduz a falta de linearidade da resposta do X-52 - desde que voce tenha culhões para fazer isto.

21_Sokol1 wrote: O tal Mark - gerente do projeto - que promovia o G940 nos foruns de simulação pode ser considerado MIA...
Sokol1

DocFlyer wrote: Eu tenho um "FFB" da ThrustMaster e já testei o Sidewinder, é uma bomba e mecanismo interno frágil, ruím de centralizar e mais atrapalha que ajuda numa simulação. Qual a avaliação "não tendenciosa" desse critério pelos foruns?
Como piloto afirmo que não existe nada ainda que responda como manche real até porque os próprios simuladores são limitados por uma série de fatores. Principalmente o hardware necessário que muda muito em pouco tempo.
DocFlyer

14-10-2009: All in all I don’t regret buying the G940, I like it (I am extremely picky and demanding for HOTAS, mind you). It gives me more possibilities than my X52 and handles the best of all sophisticated HOTAS I ever owned. Blablabla...

23-01-2010: After the months since I bought it, it started having reliability issues. Throttle travel causes spikes on R1 and R2 rotaries, They are now almost useless. Throttles are very inprecise, same travel causes different imputs, and it takes about 1cm of travel to see the difference in input, too much. Also thanks to its crummy and barely programable software, I cannot recommend this HOTAS to anyone at this time.

after the premature end to my new logitech g940 ( two months use )rudder pedal failure like somebody else on these forums . shame as i was beginning to like it .