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Sokol1In January some 198 aircraft sorties were flown (334 flying hours) and 11 aerial engagements were conducted, in which 5 Bf-109s, 1 Ju-88, and 1 He-111 were shot down [6]. These statistics reveal a surprising fact - it turns out that the Tomahawk was fully capable of successful air combat with a Bf-109. The reports of pilots about the circumstances of the engagements confirm this fact.
On 18 January 1942, Lieutenants S. V. Levin and I. P. Levsha (in pair) fought an engagement with 7 Bf-109s and shot down two of them without loss.
On 22 January a flight of three aircraft led by Lieutenant E. E. Lozov engaged 13 enemy aircraft and shot down two Bf-109Es, again without loss.
Altogether in January two Tomahawks were lost-one shot down by German antiaircraft artillery and only one by Messerschmitts.
21_Sokol1 wrote:Gostei deste quote sobre o desempenho do P-40.
As histórias do Norte da África eram bem diferentes disso né. Os P-40's eram em tudo superados pelos Bf109 e foram abatidos aos montes...In January some 198 aircraft sorties were flown (334 flying hours) and 11 aerial engagements were conducted, in which 5 Bf-109s, 1 Ju-88, and 1 He-111 were shot down [6]. These statistics reveal a surprising fact - it turns out that the Tomahawk was fully capable of successful air combat with a Bf-109. The reports of pilots about the circumstances of the engagements confirm this fact.
On 18 January 1942, Lieutenants S. V. Levin and I. P. Levsha (in pair) fought an engagement with 7 Bf-109s and shot down two of them without loss.
On 22 January a flight of three aircraft led by Lieutenant E. E. Lozov engaged 13 enemy aircraft and shot down two Bf-109Es, again without loss.
Altogether in January two Tomahawks were lost-one shot down by German antiaircraft artillery and only one by Messerschmitts.
Talvez os pilotos russos eram melhores que os ingleses, sul africanos, australianos que lutavam no Norte da África!
Sokol1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-40_Warha ... n_theatersWhile the P-40 suffered heavy loses in the M.T.O, many USAAF P-40 units achieved high kill-to-loss ratios against Axis aircraft. For example, the 324th FG scored better than a 2:1 ratio in the M.T.O.[19] In all, 23 U.S. pilots became aces in the M.T.O while flying the P-40, most of them during the first half of 1943.[49] As in the Pacific, success in combat depended in part on experience and effective tactics.
Estava lendo sobre o às canadense James F. "Stocky" "Eddie" Edwards e o texto diz o contrário:komet163 wrote: Os alemães nunca tiveram superioridade aérea no Norte da África. Tinha sim um grupo de alta qualidade e pilotos motivados, mas, sempre em menor número que os aliados.
Outra coisa interessante, o "Stocky" teve 83 horas de aprendizado de vôo com Tiger Motyh, mais 102 horas, das quais 17 à noite de treinamento avaçado em T-6 antes de ser enviado à Inglaterra.From February to mid-May, 1942 a lull existed in the western desert as both sides renewed their strength, received more tanks and men and built up stores for a renewed offensive in June. The Desert Air Force consisted of only 320 aircraft, with only some 200 operating in the Tobruk and front-line areas. Facing them were just over 700 Axis aircraft, 500 of which were in the operational area, with a slight preponderance of Italians over Germans.
Depois foi enviado ao Norte da Africa - através da rota de Tokaradi - e anexado ao desmoralizado 94th Squadron ao qual restavam apenas quatro Hurricanes operacionais, por ocasião da destratrada Operação Cruzader. O 94th foi reequipado com P40 Kittyhawk.There was no training provided on actual combat drill, and it likely wouldn't have helped much, as the RAF flight drill was also outdated. But there was also no mention of what to do when your flight was bounced by Messerschmitts, how to counter the enemy's moves in the air or how to get into a good firing position. All crucial points for a successful fighter pilot.
A maioria das missões do 260th era prover escolta para os A-20 e Baltimores da RAF, ao estilo das ordens do Goering para os 109 na BoB, com resultados semelhantes."260 still flew the stupid Hurricane formation with six aircraft in a flight...
... and no one coordinated anything when the 109's showed up.
It seemed that everyone was for himself ...
As a defensive formation, it was a confused glob of aircraft that could be turned into a confused shambles by a small number of 109's attacking from above, out of the sun.
No wonder the 109's shot down so many!
With their superior speed and height, the Messerschmitts had the superior initiative to engage or disengage at will."
Presos as estas escoltas o P-40 eram presas fáceis para os 109 que mergulhavam de cima.He found that close escort on bombers was more frustrating than flying in the upper or middle layers of the protective escort fighters. He champed on the bit when their Kittyhawks in the top-cover were dog-fighting with Germans and all he could do was fly his position and watch the action. "It might have been a little safer from the 109's than flying top cover, but it gave me the jitters. I felt helpless because I couldn't do anything. But, that's what the air force calls discipline, or formation discipline - doing what you are told to do and not what you would like to do."
"260 still flew the stupid Hurricane formation with six aircraft in a flight
(lembra os Quakebirds do IL-2Five aircraft flashed by Eddie, a 109 closely followed by a Kittyhawk, followed by a 109, another Kittyhawk and another 109, all of them were firing at the plane in front of them.
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